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When use the brake my truck hesitates to stop and I hear a grindingcheandrews60 - 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 - Brakes - 11/12/2012160 000 kms. all the time when using brakes I disconnected a wheel sensor (I think) and it didn't happen again until I reconnected it a code reading was done the machanic said he got 2 readings but couldn't tell what was the problem he said it could be electrical ... -
I replaced the front disc brake pads, not yhe rotors and now they squeak, whats is the fixj.gallop872 - 1995 GMC Yukon - Brakes - 11/10/2012-
11/4/2012 HouseCallAutoIf the rotors look ugly at all you should replace them. If they do look like they are in good shape then return the pads you bought and go online and buy acdelco pads with a part # that begins with 17 (acdelco makes two different grades) The pads are not cheap but they will not squeal. They will also last longer with the least amount of black dust on the wheels. -
11/10/2012 atecmakAlot of times semimetallic pads cause that issue. Go w/ a softer pad/organic, if you're crunchin. they don't last as long but are damn quite. AC Delco is what you need but may be pricey. try ordering them on line from a place called Nevada Brakes.
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My brake fluid is leaking out the back right tirewilsonsherri20 - 1993 GMC C1500 - Brakes - 11/9/2012-
11/9/2012 JasonSounds like you'll need a rear brake job done including wheel cylinders (drum brakes).
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Replacing brake pads, having trouble putting spacers back in place, what do I need to do?donaldjamison31 - 1992 GMC Sonoma - Brakes - 11/4/2012 -
My front disc brakes have spacers on them and I am having trouble getting them to fit. What am I doing wrong?donaldjamison31 - 1992 GMC Sonoma - Brakes - 11/4/2012 -
Why brake light wont work and running brake light (tailgate lights wont work)duckhunters84 - 1991 GMC Sonoma - Brakes - 10/28/2012brake light wont come on when press pedal, when i turn headlight on the running light wont come on, when i turn signal on it become 4 way flasher, i have replaced all lightbulbs and check fuse and check switch.. when i put it in rev the rev white light dont come on ... -
Randomly my ABS warning light comes on and may go off if I stop and restart the car. It triggers the brake warning lt.Steve Hart - 2001 GMC Yukon XL 1500 - Brakes - 10/18/2012150,000 miles and well maintained. Runs like new. No brake problems. All new brakes, rotors, etc. Driving with the ABS light on triggers the brake warning light. That used to make gages go wild and the truck lose all power, but it stopped doing that. Runs fine now. ...-
2/15/2012 graham-sswheel speed senser sounds like a bad wire to one of them it will do that the truck goes into a safe mode like setting so you couse an acident ask your mechanics if they have a saner that can graph the sensers and go for a drive
2/16/2012 Steve HartThanks, Graham. Sorry I didn't get back to you first because you hit it on the head when you said "safe mode". That's what happened the first time this showed up. The truck wouldn't drive over 5 MPH twice, when my wife was miles from home. That began the oddyssey to solve the Sherlock Holmes mystery. I'm going back to an old car with a distributor and a carburetor and nothing electric except an alternator, ignition and lights. Saving on gas isn't worth getting robbed monthly. -
2/15/2012 Spoon Sports"No brake problems. All new brakes, rotors, etc. "- Yeah well, the light is for sensors and not parts so im thinking during the process oif installing those parts, the ABS sensor might have been plugged or whatnot.
When the ABS light is ON the usuall suspects are
1. ABS speed sensor
2. ABS module (unlikely)
Your ABS has been disabled but you can still brake old school style. I THINK There is a service bulletin out for this problem. Apparently many of the ABS codes are because of a bad ground. GM makes a grounding kit, it's a special nut and bolt for 7 bucks. My dealer wanted to do the same, until I showed them the bulletin.
2/15/2012 Steve HartThanks guys. I was told that it might be a wheel speed sensor, but the supposedly trained mechanic couldn't say for sure and I wasn't going to let him start any trial and error bologna at my expense. Previously he had supposedly tracked the problem to a sensor on the power takeoff and changed it. That did nothing. Then another mechanic said the same thing and checked the first guy's work. He said the first guy never changed the sensor, so he did it. Same old problem and more wasted of time and $ -
2/15/2012 Steve HartWhen it caused the gages to go wild the first clue was the speedometer needle bouncing up and down right after the red brake warning light came on, regardless of how long the ABS light had been on, so a wheel speed sensor really does sound like the culprit. -
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2/16/2012 HouseCallAutoFaulty EBCM is most common cause - Electronic Brake Control Module but someone has to check ABS module for codes with shop grade scan tool. These codes are C codes, not P codes. Look for a C0265 fault code and if present replace the EBCM.
2/16/2012 Steve HartThat's another trial and error thing this one mechanic tried to pull on me. He's supposed to be such an expert and at one point he said I might need to replace the brake computer and that they cost about $1000 just for the part, but he couldn't say for sure if that's where the problem was so he doesn't have the proper diagniostic equipment. Mr. trial and error tries to pull another fast one. Isn't checking the checking the wheel speed sensors a total nightmare?
2/16/2012 Steve HartIs that reality show going to be called "House Call Auto"? I love DIY shows and I've been working on cars for 45 years and still do most of my own work..... until some electronic nightmare screws me up. I almost never took a car to a mechanic until I got old and all busted up, but I still get out there and fight with them a lot. My family has a whole fleet and I have to do a lot of the work and all the figuring out.
2/17/2012 Steve HartLast night I remembered that one previous mechanic had checked the wheel speed sensor and said the corrosion fix repair had already been done. My wife remembered that too, so I'm just going to replace EBCM. I see they aren't anywhere near $1,000 and I can have mine rebuilt for only $45, so that was another major auto mechanic scam avoided. The highest price I saw on eBay was a little over $300 new. This is exactly why I have personally done every repair I could possibly do, since 1967. -
2/16/2012 joePI had a problem that sounds a little like yours, except it was on a 1994 mercury villager. a code is being stored when light comes on. however when engine is turned off and again operated the light will come on again after a while. the code for this problem directed me to the left rear sensor or specific wire or connector. this van is equipped with bosch antilock braking system. brakes are monitored in milliseconds continuously. So they can react immediately when needed. Therefore it only takes a minor poor connection to cause a problem. On this problem power steering fluid had leaked on a connector under the hood. Solution: locate and disconnect and clean with a proper solvent for such purposes. if you have a code reader you can erase code(s) after repair. hope this helps.
2/16/2012 Steve HartThanks for the info, Joe. I think House Call Auto hit the nail right on the head. If it isn't the computer, which I'm pretty sure it is, I'll have to mess with the wheel speed sensors. At least now I know what to have diagnosed and it's a simple thing to just ask who can diagnose the EBCM before I pay some quack. If there's a code it's in a different computer that I can't access with my peon scan tool.
2/16/2012 HouseCallAutoYou can by a fairly inexpensive ABS code reader, maybe a hundred or two. Will still be cheaper than a shop overall and I can coach you through the finishing touches. -
10/18/2012 Larry KoltnowSteve, I have a 2000 Yukon XL, and recently (intermittently, but lately on a daily basis), my brake and ABS warning lights came on at the same time....everything drove and braked fine, but lights wouldn't go out until I stopped and restarted engine. Sometimes they went out, sometimes not. The mechanics said it was a ground problem, but turned out it wasn't. Then they said it must be the module ($1200 plus labor)...I said no, and left the GMC agency and went to another mechanic. My brakes and rotors were very worn, so he put on all new ones, and the lights have not come on in a couple of days. It's possible that the lights came on to let me know my brakes needed work, but perhaps not. Since you say you have all new stuff already, you probably have a different issue, but I had luck once long ago by calling GMC in Detroit and having someone check out all memos in their more extensive manuals and bulletins....it's possible my problem is not solved, so let me know if you come up with anything. I'm going to call GMC if the issue continues....Best of luck, Larry
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I apply brakes and rear wheel still pulls during application. Any ideas why this might be?Paul - 1993 GMC Sonoma - Brakes - 10/16/2012 -
My 3rd brake light on an 01 gmc Sonoma crew cab is out. Does the wire run through the multi function switch?Joseph - 2001 GMC Sonoma - Brakes - 10/15/201201 gmc-
10/15/2012 CVOSee this FIG : Center High Mounted Stop Lamp(c) (2001)
http://www.autozone.com/.../...rGuideContent.jsp
It connected to Fuse 10 A and a High Mount Stop lamp relay.Check them.
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Truck stops good with 3/4" pedel then pedel slowly goes down to half pedel. master cylinder was replacedgeorge - 1992 GMC C2500 - Brakes - 10/6/2012can rear abs cause this-
10/6/2012 olds40316mmTry adjusting the rear brakes (adjusters are probably stick) that will get you a full pedal But as for your pedel bleeding down makes me think your replacement master cylinder is still at fault
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10/5/2012 felplayc0265 it has to do with the ground on the frame.. All these look to involve wiring problem as the modulo..
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10/5/2012 HouseCallAutoI cannot tell you a cause because the cause is not clear because you have both these codes present at the same time.
For the C0298 >>
1. At the Electronic Brake Traction Control Module (EBTCM) disconnect and check for voltage on the Orange/Black wire at pin B4. Turn the key on, engine off. The expected voltage is 5.0 volts.
2. If 5 volts are present raise the Underhood Electrical Center (UHEC). Inspect the wiring for rodent damage.
3. If no problem is found, verify the Tan/Black wire is good to the Green connector at the PCM on pin 5. 5 volts should be present there also.
4. If not, locate and repair the open circuit in the Tan/Black wire.
For the C0265 >>
1. Verify 12 volts power on the Red wire, and ground on the Black wire, at the two pin connector to the Electronic Brake Control Module (EBCM).
2. Disconnect the plug from the bottom of the EBCM going to the motor. Then power and ground those wires and verify the motor runs and how it sounds.
3. If the motor runs and sounds fine, then the EBCM has to be replaced.
4. If the motor does not run, replace the motor and retest to see if the code returns.
5. Calibrate the tire size using the scanner after replacing the EBCM. If replacement is necessary, you will have to have someone program the tire size into it using a shop grade professional scan tool.
The pump motor relay is built internally of the EBCM and can only be serviced as the whole EBCM. Also note that if the pump motor is bad, it can damage the relay from too much current draw.
Note; the EBCM and the EBTCM are two different components. I believe that these two codes have the same cause as there are shared circuitry between them relating to serial data communication. When you find the cause for one it willolve the other as well. Good luck, thats all I got.
10/6/2012 joshThe EBCM and EBTCM are one in the same, and only one can exist on a vehicle at a time. EBCM= electronic brake control module, EBTCM- electronic brake and traction control module. It will have one or the other depending on whether or not it has traction control. Now the EBCM/EBTCM and the BPMV are two different components! Note: the new module will need software programming as well as tire size configuration.
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When bleeding brake lines....tomstud408 - 2000 GMC Savana 3500 - Brakes - 9/29/2012When bleeding brake lines do you hold down the brake pedal with bleeder open as air escapes, then once steady stream of brake fluid appears close bleeder and then release brake pedal? This would require two people. Just a yes or no answer would be great. Thanks for ...-
9/29/2012 CVOSee this How to Bleed Brakes
FAQ and Step-by-Step Instructions
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bleeding_brakes.htm
Note: keep holding the brake pedal until the bleeder is closed.
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I repaired a wrought section of 3/16 brakeline now I need to bleed it, how do I properly bleed all air from brake lines?tomstud408 - 2000 GMC Savana 3500 - Brakes - 9/28/2012I just don't know the steps to be taken. I'm a licensed plumber this is my work van I make all repairs myself so I know the mechanics of the vehicle pretty well but this is a first for me. Thanks I appreciate the help-
9/28/2012 RCThere are many articles out there on bleeding brakes. Here's one: http://www.zeckhausen.com/bleeding_brakes.htm
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Replacing brake rotors and im trying to find the toqure spec for the alxe bolt on rotornoman - 1995 GMC C7000 Topkick - Brakes - 9/18/2012